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RIchard

12 Jun, 2010 11:58 PM

Hi,

are these kind of files created by Beatunes? "Eiffel 65 - Move Your Body3059104932998489564.new" or "Indigo Girls & Kate Bush - The Spirit We7855746085033971922.new"

If yes, what happens if I delete them?

If yes, how can I avoid creating them for the future?

1. 1 Posted by RIchard on 15 Jun, 2010 05:13 AM

   

   Hello, someone at home?

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2. Support Staff 2 Posted by hendrik on 15 Jun, 2010 05:56 AM

   

   Yep... beaTunes itself does not create those files, but it is very much possible that one of the libraries beaTunes uses does. But I can't say for sure without further research..

   -hendrik

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3. Support Staff 3 Posted by hendrik on 15 Jun, 2010 06:53 AM

   

   Do the files stick around even after you shut beaTunes down?
   Where are they located? I.e. which folder? Same folder as the mp3 file with the same name?

   Thanks,

   -hendrik

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4. 4 Posted by RIchard on 15 Jun, 2010 08:26 PM

   

   Hi,

   I will investigate that.

   Regards
   Richard

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5. Support Staff 5 Posted by hendrik on 17 Jun, 2010 10:28 AM

   

   I did my homework and was able to confirm that jaudiotagger creates ".new" files when adjusting the padding in mp3 id3 tags.
   What jaudiotagger (btw, a great id3 library) does, is create a ".new" file, write some padding (i.e. empty space), then copy the audio portion of the original file to the ".new" file. Once that succeeded, the original file is renamed to ".old" and the new file it renamed to the original file name. Obviously the last steps seem to occasionally fail on your system, otherwise you wouldn't have to deal with these leftovers. As to why there is a failure, I can't tell without looking at logs.

   -hendrik

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6. 6 Posted by RIchard on 17 Jun, 2010 07:55 PM

   

   Which log? There are some more and they are filled with data that cannot send due to privacy.

   But, what I have discovered:

   Example is: Eiffel 65 - Move Your Body.mp3

   I have this file and two .new files (among others) in the directory. This ist the analysis from the Tool 'Media Info (Sourceforge)':

   Allgemein
   Vollständiger Name : ...Alben\E\Eifel 65\Eiffel 65 - Move Your Body.mp3
   Format : MPEG Audio
   Dateigröße : 3,25 MiB
   Dauer : 3min 32s
   Gesamte Bitrate : 128 Kbps
   Album : Europop
   Track-Name : Move Your Body
   Track-Name/Position : 5
   Künstler : Eiffel 65
   Komponist : Alben
   Genre : Electronica
   Aufnahmedatum : 1999
   BPM : 130
   Liedtext : jump your mind mind / jump your body move your mind / move your mind mind...
   fBPM : 129.99263
   beaTunesSpectrum : 34.830666;84.54363;99.0;52.04292;44.341045;23.453775;34.51705;19.677559;24.619373;16.400152;20.17415;22.428802;19.102476;28.20557;21.44953;22.031635;26.501728;34.009598;41.587345;40.80447;41.30099;50.072166;60.017395;53.325333;
   MusicIP PUID : 879917a4-126f-6254-2022-bcc5651b68bb
   beaTunesColor : ff0056
   Initial key : Dm

   Audio
   Format : MPEG Audio
   Format-Version : Version 1
   Format-Profil : Layer 3
   : Joint stereo : MS Stereo Dauer : 3min 32s
   Bitraten-Modus : konstant
   Bitrate : 128 Kbps
   Kanäle : 2 Kanäle
   Samplingrate : 44,1 KHz
   Stream-Größe : 3,24 MiB (100%)

   ======================================================= N E X T ================================================================ Allgemein
   Vollständiger Name : ...Alben\E\Eifel 65\Eiffel 65 - Move Your Body585804453894168515.new
   Format : MPEG Audio
   Dateigröße : 3,24 MiB
   Dauer : 3min 32s
   Gesamte Bitrate : 128 Kbps
   Track-Name : Move Your Body
   Künstler : Eiffel 65
   Aufnahmedatum : 1999

   Audio
   Format : MPEG Audio
   Format-Version : Version 1
   Format-Profil : Layer 3
   : Joint stereo : MS Stereo Dauer : 3min 32s
   Bitraten-Modus : konstant
   Bitrate : 128 Kbps
   Kanäle : 2 Kanäle
   Samplingrate : 44,1 KHz
   Stream-Größe : 3,24 MiB (100%)

   ======================================================= N E X T ================================================================ Allgemein
   Vollständiger Name : ...Alben\E\Eifel 65\Eiffel 65 - Move Your Body3059104932998489564.new
   Format : MPEG Audio
   Dateigröße : 3,24 MiB
   Dauer : 3min 32s
   Gesamte Bitrate : 128 Kbps
   Track-Name : Move Your Body
   Künstler : Eiffel 65
   Aufnahmedatum : 1999

   Audio
   Format : MPEG Audio
   Format-Version : Version 1
   Format-Profil : Layer 3
   : Joint stereo : MS Stereo Dauer : 3min 32s
   Bitraten-Modus : konstant
   Bitrate : 128 Kbps
   Kanäle : 2 Kanäle
   Samplingrate : 44,1 KHz
   Stream-Größe : 3,24 MiB (100%)

   ======================================================= E N D ================================================================

   It seems that the original file contains the beatunes result and the .new files contain older - and now useless - variations of the files. I have more then 800 of these files.

   I think I run a list of the files against matching mp3's und simply delete the .new files.

   But there ist one more that I discovered:

   The following track from Runrig was touched by Beatunes but has not got a PUID. The exact track istself is known by Musicbrainz.org: http://musicbrainz.org/track/399a9255-2090-4bba-ae6b-df5ab4d0618b.html

   So why has it happened that the track got no PUID and how can I idetify and rerun (only) these tracks?

   =======================================================================================================================

   Allgemein
   Vollständiger Name : \10.0.250.100\musik\mp3\Alben\R\Runrig\30 Year Journey\15_Loch_Lomond(Live)30_Year_Journey-The_Best_Runrig.mp3
   Format : MPEG Audio
   Dateigröße : 10,9 MiB
   Dauer : 6min 46s
   Gesamte Bitrate : 224 Kbps
   Album : 30 Year Journey - The Best
   Track-Name : Loch Lomond (Live)
   Track-Name/Position : 15
   Track-Name/total : 16
   Künstler : Runrig
   Komponist : Alben
   Genre : Folk
   Aufnahmedatum : 2005
   verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek : Exact Audio Copy (Burst Modus) / LAME3.97
   BPM : 97
   Kommentar : Track 15
   fBPM : 97.182945
   beaTunesSpectrum : 21.47225;55.664463;29.762693;99.0;16.767778;29.547218;35.83727;23.058107;25.017303;34.66339;21.752415;27.016321;32.553787;39.947357;35.74779;39.92826;40.846527;49.026287;49.110363;45.19698;51.800213;59.650627;68.10792;66.68201;
   beaTunesColor : 4eff00
   Initial key : F

   Audio
   Format : MPEG Audio
   Format-Version : Version 1
   Format-Profil : Layer 3
   : Joint stereo : MS Stereo Dauer : 6min 46s
   Bitraten-Modus : konstant
   Bitrate : 224 Kbps
   Kanäle : 2 Kanäle
   Samplingrate : 44,1 KHz
   Stream-Größe : 10,9 MiB (100%)
   verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek : LAME3.97
   Kodierungseinstellungen : -m j -V 4 -q 3 -lowpass 19.4 -b 224

   Regards
   Richard

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7. Support Staff 7 Posted by hendrik on 18 Jun, 2010 08:43 AM

   

   Hi Richard,

   as beaTunes seems to be the one creating the .new files, you can safely delete them as long as beaTunes is not running.

   Regarding the missing PUID. There is no way in beaTunes to determine, whether a song already has a PUID or not. However, when running the 'Import from MusicIP' task, beaTunes is smart enough to first check whether the song already has a PUID before it looks up the PUID. So running only that task, just for looking up PUIDs, should be fairly quick for all files as the ones that already have a PUID don't cause a lot of extra work.

   Also, please keep in mind that the beaTunes PUIDs are obtained from MusicIP/Amplifind, not MusicBrainz. So it's always possible that there are slight discrepancies.

   -hendrik

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