DISCOGS_ARTIST tag from "Import metadata data" analysis

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16 Aug, 2020 04:49 PM

Hendrik, I'm starting a new thread because I have a specific question.

I tried out the "Import metadata from online resources" analysis on a couple of songs. I chose "Import missing data" as my only checked option. These 2 songs were missing their genre but were otherwise fully tagged.

One song is "Make Me Feel" by Janelle Monae from the compilation album 2019 Grammy Nominees.

The analysis added a genre of "Electronic" (which is fine) and it added a tag "DISCOGS_ARTIST: http://www.discogs.com/artist/194". I went to that URL and found that it is a placeholder entry that says "This artist is used as a placeholder entry and does not link to any artist." That seems odd because Discogs does have an artist page for Janelle Monae: https://www.discogs.com/artist/445868-Janelle-Monáe

I notice a couple of things: (1) In my tag, I have the artist as "Janelle Monae" whereas Discogs has "Janelle Monáe" with the accent over the "a". I would hope that wouldn't make a difference because the analysis did return a genre, meaning it did match to online data somewhere. (2) I did receive a message from the analysis saying the "server was down" (I don't recall the exact message), although it did update the mp3 file as noted. (I'm using the app MediaInfo to look at the mp3 tags in the files.) Might that have caused the "default" DISCOGS-ARTIST entry?

On the other song I tried, the result was the same with the Genre ("Electronic" again) and the DISCOGS_ARTIST tag ("194" again). In this case, the song had 3 different artists so I can see where a default Discogs URL might be appropriate. Also, the error message I received from beaTunes analysis was different: "Failed to use online resources. java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out". I know the error message on the first song didn't say anything about java.

So, I'm curious. I'm wary of an automated process that may be adding dubious tags to my music files (the DISCOGS_ARTIST tag that points to a default entry instead of a valid one in the case of the Monae song). I don't know what real world impact this would have now or later, but it just seems like a bad idea to have junky tags inserted into the music files.

Any thoughts when you have time? Not urgent.

Thanks,
Richard

  1. 1 Posted by Richard on 16 Aug, 2020 05:05 PM

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    I tried a third song from the same album: "God's Plan" by Drake. In this case, I know the artist name is exactly the same that Discogs has for that artist.

    I again got the java "Read timed out" error after beaTunes spent about 5 minutes telling me "Sending data to server" in the status bar. And then 5 minutes after that, I got the "Task queue complete" message. I was only analyzing this one song.

    Identical result as with the second song above: "Electronic" genre added, "194" Discogs Artist tag added, and the java Read Time Out message issued.

    Drake's actual page at Discogs is https://www.discogs.com/artist/151199-Drake

    I might try another song later to try to get around the error messages from Analysis.

    I'm going to send logs now in case they have something in them you'd like to see.

    (Update: I got "An error occurred while sending your logs (526). Please contact support..." So I am.)

    (Further update: I tried again to send logs & got the same error. This is about 4 hours later. Also, I just had the thought that perhaps the "Album Artist" might be a factor in the songs that are the subject of this thread, which in this case is "Various". I'll try a song from a single-artist album next.)

  2. 2 Posted by Richard on 16 Aug, 2020 10:36 PM

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    It must be the Album Artist that is being looked up on Discogs. I did a song from a George Duke album, and it correctly added DISCOGS_ARTIST: http://www.discogs.com/artist/12803 which is indeed George Duke's Discogs artist page. So, no junky tag there, and by extension, no junky tag on the other songs in this thread.

    I still can't upload my logs due to the "526" error. Even though the analysis seemed to get an OK result (it did assign "Jazz" as the Genre), the process seems suspect. For one track being analyzed on an otherwise quiet system, it was 35 seconds saying "Sending data to server..." in the Status Bar (not a problem), then issued a message "A Server error occurred. Please try again later", and then the song stayed in the Task Queue for another 5 minutes, 5 seconds before it went away and Task Queue announced that it was finished. So those last 2 things seem like they might be problems, perhaps without ill consequence. Although having a song occupying a slot in the Task Queue for 5-plus minutes isn't good if one is trying to analyze a bunch of tracks.

  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by hendrik on 17 Aug, 2020 09:01 AM

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    There's currently an issue with the main database server. Please see this post.

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