Playlists Synchronised have additional 'Smart' items not viewable in iTunes

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Terry Price

25 Aug, 2020 12:22 PM

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The synchronised playlists I see in beaTunes does not match as seen in iTunes. When I delete one of the smart playlists in beaTunes then the folder after a couple of minutes reappears in beaTunes, even though it is not visible in iTunes. It appear that beaTunes is finding configurations in the iTunes XML file not visible to the app.

Do you have any approaches to clear up this anomaly? As I use beaTunes to manage a lot of stuff in iTunes

* beaTunes: 5.2.12
* JVM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM
* Version: 11.0.7+10-LTS
* Vendor: BellSoft
* OS: Mac OS X 10.15.6, x86_64
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  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by hendrik on 26 Aug, 2020 07:13 AM

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    Hi Terry,

    since you have updated to macOS 10.15, iTunes is no longer existent and beaTunes synchronizes with the via Apple's API, not some XML file.

    What you see in beaTunes is what this API delivers—I'm guessing it's an artifact of Apple ripping iTunes apart into multiple applications (Music, Podcasts, ...), because it is more or less undefined how to split playlists that contain multiple kind of media, e.g. music and podcasts.

    I'm wondering what's in those extra smart lists. Are they empty?


  2. 2 Posted by Terry Price on 26 Aug, 2020 04:29 PM

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    Hi Hendrik,

    Makes sense, would be useful if the development team could understand the API logic.

    Kind Regards,

    Terry Price
    07432 506115 | [email blocked]

  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by hendrik on 26 Aug, 2020 07:54 PM

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    As far as I can tell, the Apple API does not allow distinguishing between the different kinds of playlists. There seems little I can do.


  4. 4 Posted by Andy on 01 Sep, 2020 01:22 AM

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    I've also found that if smart playlists in Music don't specify music as the only media type, the smart playlists can be replicated in Podcasts/TV, even if blank. Because of the Apple API, these sometimes pop up in Beatunes. I've had some (but not perfect) success by specifying music only and/or removing the unneeded playlists from Podcasts/TV

  5. 5 Posted by Terry Price on 01 Sep, 2020 01:56 PM

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    Thanks for this feedback, I did find some default playlists in TV which explained some of the duplication and making sure the default Music playlists are Music only Media types helped as well.

    Kind Regards,

    Terry Price
    07432 506115 | [email blocked]

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