Key Column not sorting

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25 Sep, 2010 04:09 PM

In the bottom results pane, it appears that I cannot get the key column to sort properly, whereas the other columns perform fine.

On a related note, is it possible to add a keycode column, a la Camelot or equivalent, to get the key results to sort in a numeric manner rather than a presumably alphabetical fashion?

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by hendrik on 27 Sep, 2010 09:09 AM

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    Hi Bilot,

    thanks for making me aware of the key sorting bug - it will be fixed in the next minor update.

    Regarding the non-alphabetical sorting: beaTunes does not sort alphabetical, but exactly like you suggest, i.e. a la circle of fifths. We don't display the Camelot numbers, because the people at mixed in key require us to license that notation to actually use it.


  2. 2 Posted by Bilot on 27 Sep, 2010 10:25 PM

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    Good to hear about the sorting--I couldn't tell in that pane since everything is jumbled, but now I see it sorted in the upper pane.

    If you can't use Camelot, understandably, perhaps you could use your own variation to display in another column as Mixmeister did, as the numbers are more immediately helpful for recognizing order than are the keys themselves.

  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by hendrik on 28 Sep, 2010 08:31 AM

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    How exactly does Mixmeister display the key?

  4. 4 Posted by Bilot on 28 Sep, 2010 09:09 AM

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    Actually, I don't care for exactly the way they do it because of the poor readability of their implementation, but they use a two color scheme--one for major and one for minor keys. The numbers are embedded in a tiny circle, but in content are quite similar to Camelot in that they are ordered from 1 to 12, but they are shifted numerically by a fixed amount from the Camelot numbers. You can refer to this thread:

  5. Support Staff 5 Posted by hendrik on 28 Sep, 2010 09:27 AM

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    I guess they didn't want to have problems with the Camelot people, either..

    Too bad, that we can't simply agree on one alternative (to just the key names) notation. Makes me consider adding MixMeister numbers to my implementation.

    BTW - that little hand/line in the key displayed by beaTunes works like a clock - that is it has 12 hours corresponding to 12 keys. Also, the saturation indicates major or minor. So beaTunes gives you at least some direct visual clues on whether two keys are close or not.


  6. 6 Posted by Bilot on 28 Sep, 2010 04:34 PM

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    Now that you mentioned it, I can see the clock line. I think it could work better if the line were fatter and switched to white on dark backgrounds perhaps so it is more apparent from more than a few inches away from the screen on a high resolution monitor. Thanks for the reply.

  7. hendrik closed this discussion on 31 May, 2011 05:46 PM.

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