Please provide a column for "last analyzed", perhaps some sort of stats column. Basically a change history for tracks.

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28 Jul, 2017 03:26 PM

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2. Hello, I'm hoping to get a date column for when a track was last analyzed. e.g. If I decide to change my ReplayGain reference level, or do things differently, I won't know what tracks have/have not been updated.

Perhaps this change takes the form of multiple "stats" columns that can convey what's been changed during analysis/inspection.

Right now I'm having to manually create playlists in iTunes to manage my changes from beaTunes. I feel like there should be a better way. Thanks.

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  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by hendrik on 29 Jul, 2017 09:29 AM

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    Hey Scott,

    does the Date Modified perhaps already cover your needs?

    Right now I'm having to manually create playlists in iTunes to manage my changes from beaTunes.

    How does iTunes help here?

    -hendrik

  2. 2 Posted by scooterbaga on 29 Jul, 2017 01:00 PM

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    Hello,

    Well, you should be able to tell /me/ that, right? The 5k songs I've run
    so far, numerous entries have a Date Modified in February. Since Color
    is new data, and these tracks have a Color value added in the past few
    days, I don't think the Date Modified column does what I'm looking for.
    (I'm a little curious why analysis didn't update this regardless.)

    What I want is to have access to info that's /strictly/ beaTunes
    activity. The existing Date Modified sounds like it might possibly be
    updated by iTunes, or even the OS. So unless I put everything on hold
    while I'm running beaTunes, I can't "trust" the Date Modified field to
    accurately convey whether or not I've run a beaTunes analysis.

    I could see having one or more columns of data that shows what beaTunes
    has done to a file, and when it was done, being valuable for a multitude
    of reasons.

    As for the question of how iTunes is helping be with Analysis, I'm using
    it to split up the data in to more manageable pieces. This is necessary
    because there doesn't seem to be a means within beaTunes to determine
    when/if analysis has been done. (Or if analysis has been done with my
    most recent settings.)

    The point of this suggestion being, there doesn't seem to be a way to
    know what files beaTunes has Analyzed, or Inspected without manually
    managing/tracking it all via iTunes. This becomes more of an issue with
    the size of the library.

    e.g. If I decide to change my Reference Level for ReplayGain, what means
    do I have of determining if I've Analyzed a given file after that change?

  3. 3 Posted by scooterbaga on 30 Jul, 2017 01:31 PM

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    Hello,

    Well, you should be able to tell me that, right? The 5k songs I've run so far, numerous entries have a Date Modified in February. Since Color is new data, and these tracks have a Color value added in the past few days, I don't think the Date Modified column does what I'm looking for. (I'm a little curious why analysis didn't update this regardless.)

    What I want is to have access to info that's strictly beaTunes activity. The existing Date Modified sounds like it might possibly be updated by iTunes, or even the OS. So unless I put everything on hold while I'm running beaTunes, I can't "trust" the Date Modified field to accurately convey when or whether I've run a beaTunes analysis.

    I could see having one or more columns of data that shows what beaTunes has done to a file, and when it was done, being valuable for a multitude of reasons. Perhaps even conveying issues that have occurred.

    As for the question of how iTunes is helping be with Analysis, I'm using it to split up the data in to more manageable pieces. This is necessary because there doesn't seem to be a means within beaTunes to determine when/if analysis has been done. (Or if an analysis has been done with my most recent settings.)

    The point of this suggestion being, there doesn't seem to be a way to know what files beaTunes has Analyzed, or Inspected without manually managing/tracking it all via iTunes. This becomes more of an issue with the size of the library.

    e.g. If I decide to change my Reference Level for ReplayGain, what means do I have of determining if I've Analyzed a given file again after that change? Can beaTunes be changed to show me the Reference Level used, and/or the last time I analyzed the file?

    Thanks.

  4. Support Staff 4 Posted by hendrik on 31 Jul, 2017 03:16 PM

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    Well, you should be able to tell /me/ that, right? The 5k songs I've run so far, numerous entries have a Date Modified in February. Since Color
    is new data, and these tracks have a Color value added in the past few
    days, I don't think the Date Modified column does what I'm looking for.
    (I'm a little curious why analysis didn't update this regardless.)

    If you are running an iTunes-based collection, the date-modifed field is managed by iTunes, not beaTunes. So when beaTunes updates something, it does not explicitly update that field. iTunes may or may not realize something has changed and update it, but beaTunes won't know about this until you synchronize.

    What I want is to have access to info that's /strictly/ beaTunes activity. The existing Date Modified sounds like it might possibly be
    updated by iTunes, or even the OS. So unless I put everything on hold
    while I'm running beaTunes, I can't "trust" the Date Modified field to
    accurately convey whether or not I've run a beaTunes analysis.

    I believe you're right.

    The filesystem timestamp should show you the last mod, even by beaTunes, but only if data is actually embedded....

    As for the question of how iTunes is helping be with Analysis, I'm using it to split up the data in to more manageable pieces. This is necessary
    because there doesn't seem to be a means within beaTunes to determine
    when/if analysis has been done. (Or if analysis has been done with my
    most recent settings.)

    What I don't understand is why you split stuff up in iTunes and not beaTunes? What's the advantage of using iTunes here?

    e.g. If I decide to change my Reference Level for ReplayGain, what means do I have of determining if I've Analyzed a given file after that change?

    Pretty much none. I see your point.

  5. 5 Posted by scooterbaga on 01 Aug, 2017 03:25 AM

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    Ahh, now I understand what you're asking... I used smart playlists to split everything up. I use a labyrinth of smart playlists to manage the music on my phone. It's a moving target.

    Starting with a playlist of "songs I have on my phone" then numerous other playlists that were essentially "not the preceding playlists".

    Once the entire library was accounted for, I dumped the smart playlists into static playlists.

    The plan being to get a feel for the ReplayGain2 reference level using the "songs on my phone" playlist as a testing ground. (I'm confused as to what the varying Reference Level options represent. I'm working under the assumption that ReplayGain2 is equivalent to the previous version's default setting for ReplayGain.)

  6. Support Staff 6 Posted by hendrik on 15 Aug, 2017 08:58 AM

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    Hey Scott,

    v5.0.4 has a new column "Analysis Date", which shows the date of the last analysis. After you update, this field is empty (no data available about past analysis runs), but should be updated with dates for each subsequent analysis run.

    See also http://blog.beatunes.com/2017/08/update-beatunes-504.html

    Cheers,

    -hendrik

  7. Support Staff 7 Posted by hendrik on 19 Aug, 2017 10:50 AM

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    Since the feature has been implemented, I will close this discussion.

    -hendrik

  8. hendrik closed this discussion on 19 Aug, 2017 10:50 AM.

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