Questions before license purchase

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06 Dec, 2010 01:08 AM

I downloaded the trial yesterday and have some questions before actually running the program fully:

All my tunes are already analysed for key by RE but the code does not show up in beaTunes - is this normal?
Is it possible to disable key analysis and/or BPM analysis?
I am aware that you cannot use the Camelot code as the key reference written. Do you know if there is a script that can convert the musical key to the Camelot code?
Does my library need to be organised by iTunes in order to get the most out of the program?

Thanks for your help.


  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by hendrik on 06 Dec, 2010 10:14 AM

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    Hi Joe,

    To answer your questions:

    • beaTunes does not scan all your files when you first start it. That is probably why the key does not show up. To scan/import the key field, first click on music in the tree panel and then on analyze. Only select the import fields task and only choose the key field. The import will be fairly quick.
    • When clicking on Analyze beaTunes will show a dialog that allows you to control precisely what will be done. Only choose those tasks that you are interested in. Also, Analyze is sensitive to what songs or playlists you have selected. I.e. make sure you have selected what you want to analyze, before you analyze.
    • beaTunes stores the key in mp3 files exactly as specified in the id3 spec. Any software can take this information and display it in whatever way it chooses. It should not be necessary to change the actual information in the file (in fact, I think that would be a bad idea), but only to change what's being displayed. beaTunes for now, does not display Camelot notation and I don't know of any script that changes that.
    • beaTunes 2 needs iTunes to operate on a library, i.e. it operates on whatever you have in iTunes.

    Hope this answers your questions,


    PS: Wanna make this thread public? I think it could be useful for other people.

  2. 2 Posted by joe.gawler on 06 Dec, 2010 10:58 AM

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    Hi Hendrik,

    Thanks for the quick & detailed reply.

    I tried importing the key on a small playlist and it did import the keys very quickly but they are displayed as musical keys. I have just checked my RE and now see that that program has a key column for the musical key and a key code column to store the Camelot code so I am guessing that the key field must be populated by a musical key.

    So to confirm that in the analysis process, if I check import meta-data from files then beaTunes will just add in those fields that have been tagged but iTunes will not display. The program will not re-analyse and replace?

    My question regarding the library is to confirm that if I were to select a duplicate file to be deleted it can be deleted even if I do not allow iTunes to keep my library organised?

    Thanks for your assistance and by all means make this public. I am going to purchase a license but a little hesitant as it seems a new version is imminent.



  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by hendrik on 06 Dec, 2010 11:08 AM

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    note that in beaTunes the musical key has a little tick mark, just like a clock hand. It graphically indicates the position on the circle of fifths, just like the Camelot notation does numerically.

    The Camelot key is a trivial mapping of the musical key to a number. So it's really the same information, just displayed in two different ways. In all likelihood, RE only stores the key once, but displays it in two different ways.

    When checking import meta-data from files beaTunes will only manipulate its internal database, not any files. I.e. no analysis and no replacement of the data in the files.

    And yes, beaTunes can delete duplicates even when the library is not organized by iTunes. BTW: If possible, the files are moved to the trash. So to actually clear your harddrive you should check the trash/recycling bin.


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