tag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:/discussions/questions/4998-display-fontbeaTunes: Discussion 2016-09-17T07:38:49Ztag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/407283332016-09-11T09:50:45Z2016-09-11T09:50:47ZDisplay font<div><p>Hi everyone,</p>
<p>I noticed several transitions over the last few releases of how
lists and dialogs are displayed on 4k monitors. Currently dialogs
are well legible, but the font size on the main window is too large
for me. Is there any possibilty to change the display font?</p>
<p>Best,<br>
Thilo</p></div>Thilotag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/407283332016-09-11T11:14:31Z2016-09-11T11:14:31ZDisplay font<div><p>Hey Thilo,</p>
<p>currently you cannot set the font size manually.<br>
Just so that I know what exactly you are seeing, would you mind
sending a screenshot?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>-hendrik</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/407283332016-09-11T20:22:49Z2016-09-11T20:22:50ZDisplay font<div><p>Thank you, Hendrik for the prompt reply. I attach a screen shot
of a full screen window on my 4k monitor under Windows 10.0.14393
Build 14393. The default text scale for my system is 150%. Note
that menus and dialog windows look fine. beaTunes main window
elements are displayed in a font size comparable to a size 18 in a
Word document (on screen 100%)</p></div>Thilotag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/407283332016-09-12T07:55:19Z2016-09-12T07:55:19ZDisplay font<div><p>Hey Thilo,</p>
<p>as you perhaps know, beaTunes uses Java 8 to run. While the
4k/Retina/HiDPI support for OS X has been stellar for years, the
same unfortunately, cannot be said for Windows, simply because
Windows hardware has been lagging behind a little. That's certainly
over by now, Windows hardware has caught up and there
<em>should</em> be better support. This is why I made quite an
effort with <a href="http://blog.beatunes.com/2016/04/beatunes-46-high-resolution-display.html">
beaTunes 4.6</a> to support HiDPI displays on Windows, even though
Java 8 still has many bugs HiDPI bugs. Most of those will probably
be solved with Java 9, but that won't happen until <a href="http://www.java9countdown.xyz">3/2017</a>.</p>
<p>That's part of the story. The other part is certainly, that the
font is meant to be slightly larger than the regular font. Also,
the current beaTunes 4.6 UI does contain some oddities, like the
font size of the time and remaining time left and right of the
player bar. Also on the left and right edge of the window, those
vertical buttons don't have correctly scaled fonts. These and more
issues will be addressed in beaTunes 5.</p>
<p>That all said, the standard font size for beaTunes is 12pt, not
18pt. Does the font size look better to you, when you reset your
scaling to 100% (probably requires beaTunes restart to take
effect)?</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-hendrik</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/407283332016-09-15T20:49:46Z2016-09-15T20:49:48ZDisplay font<div><p>Thanks again, Hendrik, for your answer.</p>
<p>If I change the scaling to 100%, the overall size is smaller as
expected. However the relation between the "system" font (Menu and
Dialogs) to he application window font in beaTunes remains the
same. There is still a significant size difference between the two
which IMHO should have roughly the same size.. Anyway, I need to
scale to 150% on my 31" Monitor in order to have the right
experience. Which BTW works well for all other applications I use.
In this sense, I would appreciate something like a
"BEATUNES_FONTSIZE" variable to have some kind of control over
this.</p>
<p>Best,<br>
Thilo</p></div>Thilotag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/407283332016-09-16T13:57:09Z2016-09-16T13:57:09ZDisplay font<div><p>Hey Thilo,</p>
<p>I understand the desire.</p>
<p>If you're interested, please try the current dev snapshot from
<a href="https://www.beatunes.com/download/beaTunes-4-6-7-SNAPSHOT-x64.exe">
https://www.beatunes.com/download/beaTunes-4-6-7-SNAPSHOT-x64.exe</a></p>
<p>To install, first stop beaTunes (should it be running), then run
the installer.<br>
After the installer ran through, don't start beaTunes. Instead,
please open the file <code>C:\Program
Files\beaTunes4\beaTunes4.l4j.ini</code> (path may be different
depending on where you installed beaTunes) with a text editor and
change the parameter at the bottom of the file:</p>
<pre>
<code>-Dfont.size=12</code>
</pre>
<p>To something like</p>
<pre>
<code>-Dfont.size=9</code>
</pre>
<p>Save the file and <em>then</em> start beaTunes.<br>
The look probably won't be perfect, but perhaps suits your needs
better.</p>
<p>Also, please note that the file may be overwritten with the
unmodified version, should you run the beaTunes installer
again.</p>
<p>Hope this helps,</p>
<p>-hendrik</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/407283332016-09-16T22:15:35Z2016-09-16T22:15:36ZDisplay font<div><p>Hey Hendrik,</p>
<p>this is really great! A font size of 9 works perfect for me. I
did not expect an immediate implementation of such a feature. I
really appreciate your help. Very straightforward and hard to find
these days!</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Thilo</p>
<p>Von: hendrik [mailto:<a href="mailto:tender+dfb3698c73@tenderapp.com">tender+dfb3698c73@tenderapp.com</a>]<br>
Gesendet: Freitag, 16. September 2016 15:57<br>
An: <a href="mailto:ts@2pix.de">ts@2pix.de</a><br>
Betreff: Re: Display font [Questions #4998]</p></div>Thilo Schmidtag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/407283332016-09-17T07:38:49Z2016-09-17T07:38:49ZDisplay font<div><p>Hey Thilo,</p>
<blockquote>
<p>this is really great! A font size of 9 works perfect for me.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Glad this works for you.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I did not expect an immediate implementation of such a feature.
I really appreciate your help. Very straightforward and hard to
find these days!</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Well, I'm aware that the experience on some Windows
hardware/software versions isn't perfect and am willing to improve
it. This was basically just a small config option, <em>which will
have to be re-applied when you update the software</em>. So this is
not perfect either. But again, I'm happy to scratch your itch.</p>
<p>Enjoy the weekend,</p>
<p>-hendrik</p></div>hendrik