If I move my music collection from one hard drive to another, do I have to reanalyze the whole thing?

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12 Mar, 2015 05:48 PM

Sorry if this is a common question, but I'm partway through my 2-week trial period (and loving it!!). I'm just trying to guess at problems that might come up in the future before I buy. So far, though, this is amazing. Even playlists with a 30% match sound good!

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by hendrik on 12 Mar, 2015 07:04 PM

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    Hey Joe,

    the answer to this question depends on what kind of library you have.
    Is it folder or iTunes-based?

    In any case, please read this article. It probably answers most of your questions.

    Cheers,

    -hendrik

  2. 2 Posted by Guy Overthere on 12 Mar, 2015 09:06 PM

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    That article looks like it points to a very useful feature indeed - embedding non-itunes fields into the track itself. Nothing would make me happier! However, there isn't that option available on the version I've just downloaded. Is that a "purchased only" option?

    Essentially, there isn't that option available in the version of Beatunes that I'm using right now (downloaded three days ago).

    Wait!

    I just read the last paragraph, sure enough, there it is. The information is embedded in the tracks. Wonderful. (I'm using folder-based libraries.) Thanks for your help, support staff. I'll buy your program, for sure. I love it. Great piece of software you have there, thanks again.

    Joe
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    From: hendrik (Support staff)

    Hey Joe,

    the answer to this question depends on what kind of library you have.
    Is it folder or iTunes-based?

    In any case, please read this article. It probably answers most of your questions.

    Cheers,

    -hendrik

    On Thu, Mar 12 at 05:48 PM, Joe wrote:

    Sorry if this is a common question, but I'm partway through my 2-week trial period (and loving it!!). I'm just trying to guess at problems that might come up in the future before I buy. So far, though, this is amazing. Even playlists with a 30% match sound good!

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  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by hendrik on 13 Mar, 2015 08:21 AM

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    Glad this worked out!

    -hendrik

  4. hendrik closed this discussion on 13 Mar, 2015 08:21 AM.

  5. Guy Overthere re-opened this discussion on 14 Mar, 2015 07:50 PM

  6. 4 Posted by Guy Overthere on 14 Mar, 2015 07:50 PM

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    Okay, hendrik. Not quite done yet! One final question! Here is the scenario:

    I have my music collection stored in different folders across different hard drives. When beatunes starts up, it loads a "library" of one of the folders that I have been using recently - but I can't find an option anywhere that allows me to see my entire collection. If I have three hard drives connected, and analyzed music on each of them, is there an option to allow me to see my entire library - everything that beatunes has analyzed, all at the same time? Otherwise when it makes a playlist, it only pulls songs from a fraction of the music I have available. The 'music library' pulldown in the options screen only allows me to select one of my libraries at a time. It would be verrrrrrrry useful to be able to merge multiple folders before making playlists.

    Any solutions? It seems like a relatively simple feature to have.

    Thanks again,
    Joe
    Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 at 4:21 AM
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    From: hendrik (Support staff)

    Glad this worked out!

    -hendrik

    On Thu, Mar 12 at 09:06 PM, Guy Overthere wrote:

     
    That article looks like it points to a very useful feature indeed - embedding non-itunes fields into the track itself. Nothing would make me happier! However, there isn't that option available on the version I've just downloaded. Is that a "purchased only" option?

    Essentially, there isn't that option available in the version of Beatunes that I'm using right now (downloaded three days ago).

    Wait!

    I just read the last paragraph, sure enough, there it is. The information is embedded in the tracks. Wonderful. (I'm using folder-based libraries.) Thanks for your help, support staff. I'll buy your program, for sure. I love it. Great piece of software you have there, thanks again.

    Joe
    Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 3:04 PM
    From: hendrik <[email blocked]>
    To: [email blocked]
    Subject: Re: If I move my music collection from one hard drive to another, do I have to reanalyze the whole thing? [Questions #4484]
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    From: hendrik (Support staff)

    Hey Joe,

    the answer to this question depends on what kind of library you have.
    Is it folder or iTunes-based?

    In any case, please read this article. It probably answers most of your questions.

    Cheers,

    -hendrik

    On Thu, Mar 12 at 05:48 PM, Joe wrote:

    Sorry if this is a common question, but I'm partway through my 2-week trial period (and loving it!!). I'm just trying to guess at problems that might come up in the future before I buy. So far, though, this is amazing. Even playlists with a 30% match sound good!

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  7. Support Staff 5 Posted by hendrik on 15 Mar, 2015 02:17 PM

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    Any solutions? It seems like a relatively simple feature to have.

    In a way it is. beaTunes has the capability, but it's not supported directly via the UI.

    Option 1

    Shut down beaTunes
    Open the file c:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\tagtraum industries\beaTunes\preferences2.xml with a simple editor like Notepad.
    Find a section that has entries like this:

    <file-collection persistentid="834F24D7388C44D7" name="FileSystem">
        <root>c:/folder1</root>
    </file-collection>
    

    Find a <root> element that looks like one of the three folders you want to combine.
    Then add two more <root> elements to the same <file-collection> like this:

    <file-collection persistentid="834F24D7388C44D7" name="FileSystem">
        <root>c:/folder1</root>
        <root>c:/folder2</root>
        <root>c:/folder3</root>
    </file-collection>
    

    Save the file and start beaTunes. If things are correct, one of your three libraries will now also contain the other two (you can tell in the general preferences, that the name ends in , ...). You might have to sync via File -> Synchronize.

    Option 2

    Create a folder that contains symbolic links to the other three folders and create a library based on that folder. If songs don't show up, you might still need to add a configuration file:

    • shut down beaTunes
    • open the file c:\Program Files\beaTunes4\beaTunes4.l4j.ini
    • change -Dsymlinks.follow=false to -Dsymlinks.follow=true
    • restart beaTunes
    • you might have to sync via File -> Synchronize.

    Hope this helps,

    -hendrik

  8. 6 Posted by Guy Overthere on 15 Mar, 2015 06:27 PM

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    Great support work, my friend. Those solutions should do nicely. I will likely use the second option and leave Beatune's internal library system unchanged; this will give me the flexibility to merge libraries on the fly, and unmerge them by removing the links. Great solution. I'll try that out this afternoon.

    - Joe

     
     
    Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 10:17 AM
    From: hendrik <[email blocked]>
    To: [email blocked]
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    From: hendrik (Support staff)

    Any solutions? It seems like a relatively simple feature to have.

    In a way it is. beaTunes has the capability, but it's not supported directly via the UI.

    Option 1

    Shut down beaTunes
    Open the file c:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\tagtraum industries\beaTunes\preferences2.xml with a simple editor like Notepad.
    Find a section that has entries like this:

    <file-collection persistentid="834F24D7388C44D7" name="FileSystem">
        <root>c:/folder1</root>
    </file-collection>
    

    Find a <root> element that looks like one of the three folders you want to combine.
    Then add two more <root> elements to the same <file-collection> like this:

    <file-collection persistentid="834F24D7388C44D7" name="FileSystem">
        <root>c:/folder1</root>
        <root>c:/folder2</root>
        <root>c:/folder3</root>
    </file-collection>
    

    Save the file and start beaTunes. If things are correct, one of your three libraries will now also contain the other two (you can tell in the general preferences, that the name ends in , ...). You might have to sync via File -> Synchronize.

    Option 2

    Create a folder that contains symbolic links to the other three folders and create a library based on that folder. If songs don't show up, you might still need to add a configuration file:

    • shut down beaTunes
    • open the file c:\Program Files\beaTunes4\beaTunes4.l4j.ini
    • change -Dsymlinks.follow=false to -Dsymlinks.follow=true
    • restart beaTunes
    • you might have to sync via File -> Synchronize.

    Hope this helps,

    -hendrik

    On Sat, Mar 14 at 07:50 PM, Guy Overthere wrote:

     
    Okay, hendrik. Not quite done yet! One final question! Here is the scenario:

    I have my music collection stored in different folders across different hard drives. When beatunes starts up, it loads a "library" of one of the folders that I have been using recently - but I can't find an option anywhere that allows me to see my entire collection. If I have three hard drives connected, and analyzed music on each of them, is there an option to allow me to see my entire library - everything that beatunes has analyzed, all at the same time? Otherwise when it makes a playlist, it only pulls songs from a fraction of the music I have available. The 'music library' pulldown in the options screen only allows me to select one of my libraries at a time. It would be verrrrrrrry useful to be able to merge multiple folders before making playlists.

    Any solutions? It seems like a relatively simple feature to have.

    Thanks again,
    Joe
    Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 at 4:21 AM
    From: hendrik <[email blocked]>
    To: [email blocked]
    Subject: Re: If I move my music collection from one hard drive to another, do I have to reanalyze the whole thing? [Questions #4484]
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    From: hendrik (Support staff)

    Glad this worked out!

    -hendrik

    On Thu, Mar 12 at 09:06 PM, Guy Overthere wrote:

     
    That article looks like it points to a very useful feature indeed - embedding non-itunes fields into the track itself. Nothing would make me happier! However, there isn't that option available on the version I've just downloaded. Is that a "purchased only" option?

    Essentially, there isn't that option available in the version of Beatunes that I'm using right now (downloaded three days ago).

    Wait!

    I just read the last paragraph, sure enough, there it is. The information is embedded in the tracks. Wonderful. (I'm using folder-based libraries.) Thanks for your help, support staff. I'll buy your program, for sure. I love it. Great piece of software you have there, thanks again.

    Joe
    Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 3:04 PM
    From: hendrik <[email blocked]>
    To: [email blocked]
    Subject: Re: If I move my music collection from one hard drive to another, do I have to reanalyze the whole thing? [Questions #4484]
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    From: hendrik (Support staff)

    Hey Joe,

    the answer to this question depends on what kind of library you have.
    Is it folder or iTunes-based?

    In any case, please read this article. It probably answers most of your questions.

    Cheers,

    -hendrik

    On Thu, Mar 12 at 05:48 PM, Joe wrote:

    Sorry if this is a common question, but I'm partway through my 2-week trial period (and loving it!!). I'm just trying to guess at problems that might come up in the future before I buy. So far, though, this is amazing. Even playlists with a 30% match sound good!

    Having trouble reading this? View this discussion online: If I move my music collection from one hard drive to another, do I have to reanalyze the whole thing?.

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  9. Support Staff 7 Posted by hendrik on 15 Mar, 2015 06:39 PM

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    I should probably add that adding an removing folders may lead to very long sync times.

    -hendrik

  10. 8 Posted by Guy Overthere on 15 Mar, 2015 06:48 PM

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    Well, the songs didn't show up anyways, so it looks like I'll try out the first option.

    I don't really mind if beatunes takes a few minutes to sync up. I guess I'll see how long it takes when I get the first batch going.
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    From: hendrik (Support staff)

    I should probably add that adding an removing folders may lead to very long sync times.

    -hendrik

    On Sun, Mar 15 at 06:27 PM, Guy Overthere wrote:

    Great support work, my friend. Those solutions should do nicely. I will likely use the second option and leave Beatune's internal library system unchanged; this will give me the flexibility to merge libraries on the fly, and unmerge them by removing the links. Great solution. I'll try that out this afternoon.

    - Joe

     
     
    Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 10:17 AM
    From: hendrik <[email blocked]>
    To: [email blocked]
    Subject: Re: If I move my music collection from one hard drive to another, do I have to reanalyze the whole thing? [Questions #4484]
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    From: hendrik (Support staff)

    Any solutions? It seems like a relatively simple feature to have.

    In a way it is. beaTunes has the capability, but it's not supported directly via the UI.

    Option 1

    Shut down beaTunes
    Open the file c:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\tagtraum industries\beaTunes\preferences2.xml with a simple editor like Notepad.
    Find a section that has entries like this:

    <file-collection persistentid="834F24D7388C44D7" name="FileSystem">
        <root>c:/folder1</root>
    </file-collection>
    

    Find a <root> element that looks like one of the three folders you want to combine.
    Then add two more <root> elements to the same <file-collection> like this:

    <file-collection persistentid="834F24D7388C44D7" name="FileSystem">
        <root>c:/folder1</root>
        <root>c:/folder2</root>
        <root>c:/folder3</root>
    </file-collection>
    

    Save the file and start beaTunes. If things are correct, one of your three libraries will now also contain the other two (you can tell in the general preferences, that the name ends in , ...). You might have to sync via File -> Synchronize.

    Option 2

    Create a folder that contains symbolic links to the other three folders and create a library based on that folder. If songs don't show up, you might still need to add a configuration file:

    • shut down beaTunes
    • open the file c:\Program Files\beaTunes4\beaTunes4.l4j.ini
    • change -Dsymlinks.follow=false to -Dsymlinks.follow=true
    • restart beaTunes
    • you might have to sync via File -> Synchronize.

    Hope this helps,

    -hendrik

    On Sat, Mar 14 at 07:50 PM, Guy Overthere wrote:

     
    Okay, hendrik. Not quite done yet! One final question! Here is the scenario:

    I have my music collection stored in different folders across different hard drives. When beatunes starts up, it loads a "library" of one of the folders that I have been using recently - but I can't find an option anywhere that allows me to see my entire collection. If I have three hard drives connected, and analyzed music on each of them, is there an option to allow me to see my entire library - everything that beatunes has analyzed, all at the same time? Otherwise when it makes a playlist, it only pulls songs from a fraction of the music I have available. The 'music library' pulldown in the options screen only allows me to select one of my libraries at a time. It would be verrrrrrrry useful to be able to merge multiple folders before making playlists.

    Any solutions? It seems like a relatively simple feature to have.

    Thanks again,
    Joe
    Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 at 4:21 AM
    From: hendrik <[email blocked]>
    To: [email blocked]
    Subject: Re: If I move my music collection from one hard drive to another, do I have to reanalyze the whole thing? [Questions #4484]
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    From: hendrik (Support staff)

    Glad this worked out!

    -hendrik

    On Thu, Mar 12 at 09:06 PM, Guy Overthere wrote:

     
    That article looks like it points to a very useful feature indeed - embedding non-itunes fields into the track itself. Nothing would make me happier! However, there isn't that option available on the version I've just downloaded. Is that a "purchased only" option?

    Essentially, there isn't that option available in the version of Beatunes that I'm using right now (downloaded three days ago).

    Wait!

    I just read the last paragraph, sure enough, there it is. The information is embedded in the tracks. Wonderful. (I'm using folder-based libraries.) Thanks for your help, support staff. I'll buy your program, for sure. I love it. Great piece of software you have there, thanks again.

    Joe
    Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 3:04 PM
    From: hendrik <[email blocked]>
    To: [email blocked]
    Subject: Re: If I move my music collection from one hard drive to another, do I have to reanalyze the whole thing? [Questions #4484]
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    From: hendrik (Support staff)

    Hey Joe,

    the answer to this question depends on what kind of library you have.
    Is it folder or iTunes-based?

    In any case, please read this article. It probably answers most of your questions.

    Cheers,

    -hendrik

    On Thu, Mar 12 at 05:48 PM, Joe wrote:

    Sorry if this is a common question, but I'm partway through my 2-week trial period (and loving it!!). I'm just trying to guess at problems that might come up in the future before I buy. So far, though, this is amazing. Even playlists with a 30% match sound good!

    Having trouble reading this? View this discussion online: If I move my music collection from one hard drive to another, do I have to reanalyze the whole thing?.

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