tag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:/discussions/problems/48154-tunes-on-an-album-are-scrambledbeaTunes: Discussion 2018-08-19T23:38:20Ztag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/458877572018-08-13T16:14:12Z2018-08-13T16:14:12Ztunes on an album are "scrambled"<div><p>Can you reproduce this issue after you have restarted beaTunes?</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/458877572018-08-13T16:19:18Z2018-08-13T16:19:18Ztunes on an album are "scrambled"<div><p>Yes. Everything is as I described, even after a beaTunes restart (multiple restarts, actually).</p>
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<p>To: <a href="mailto:pattonre@yahoo.com">pattonre@yahoo.com</a> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 11:14 AM Subject: Re: tunes on an album are "scrambled" [Problems #48154]</p>
<p>#yiv7167485547 pre {width:92%;margin:10px 2%;padding:5px 2%;background:#efefef;border:1px solid #d6d6d6;}#yiv7167485547 blockquote {margin-left:0;padding-left:1em;border-left:5px solid #ccc;}</p></div>Richardtag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/458877572018-08-13T16:29:02Z2018-08-13T16:29:02Ztunes on an album are "scrambled"<div><p>Odd.</p>
<p>Could you copy that "Hey Love" track into a separate folder, create a library based just on that folder and report what beaTunes shows? If it shows the same value (i.e. duration), could you please send me that file so that I can look into why beaTunes is showing the wrong time?</p>
<p>Thank you!</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/458877572018-08-13T16:59:19Z2018-08-13T16:59:19Ztunes on an album are "scrambled"<div><p>I did as you asked. The duration still shows 37:30. I am attaching the mp3 file. When I play the song in the new 1-song beaTunes library, it is playing the correct song.</p>
<p>I know the track is encoded at a variable bit rate, but that's not unusual. The majority of my tracks are VBR.</p>
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<code> From: hendrik <tender+d9ecfafc87@tenderapp.com></code>
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<p>To: <a href="mailto:pattonre@yahoo.com">pattonre@yahoo.com</a> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 11:29 AM Subject: Re: tunes on an album are "scrambled" [Problems #48154]</p>
<p>#yiv7145353968 pre {width:92%;margin:10px 2%;padding:5px 2%;background:#efefef;border:1px solid #d6d6d6;}#yiv7145353968 blockquote {margin-left:0;padding-left:1em;border-left:5px solid #ccc;}</p></div>Richardtag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/458877572018-08-15T14:22:48Z2018-08-15T14:22:48Ztunes on an album are "scrambled"<div><p>Thanks for the sample.</p>
<p>The file uses "Joint Stereo" for channel coding. Is it possible that that's the problem? I.e. do all your scrambled files use "Joint Stereo"?</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/458877572018-08-15T14:58:11Z2018-08-15T14:58:11Ztunes on an album are "scrambled"<div><p>I'm not sure how to determine if a particular mp3 file I have is encoded "joint stereo" vs the alternative of encoding each channel distinctly within the mp3 file. I looked at several apps I have and none reports that distinction. So to answer your specific question, I don't know, but it is very likely they all were encoded the same way..<br>
However, I do know that many if not most of my mp3 files are encoded as joint stereo. I use an app called XRecode 3 to do some of my conversions to mp3. It uses the LAME encoder to do its work. I have XRecode set to encode as joint stereo by default. So if "joint stereo" was the culprit, I would see a problem with lots of files, not just a handful. Plus, I would think most of your other users' files are encoded the same way.</p>
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<p>To: <a href="mailto:pattonre@yahoo.com">pattonre@yahoo.com</a> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 9:22 AM Subject: Re: tunes on an album are "scrambled" [Problems #48154]</p>
<p>#yiv7090494035 pre {width:92%;margin:10px 2%;padding:5px 2%;background:#efefef;border:1px solid #d6d6d6;}#yiv7090494035 blockquote {margin-left:0;padding-left:1em;border-left:5px solid #ccc;}</p></div>Richardtag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/458877572018-08-18T20:16:56Z2018-08-18T20:16:56Ztunes on an album are "scrambled"<div><p>Hey Richard,</p>
<p>I had a chance to look some more into this.</p>
<p>The file you sent is VBR encoded, but seems to be missing both a Xing and a Vbri frame. This means that to find out how long the file is in minutes and seconds, a player has to read through the whole file or at least through a good number of frames.</p>
<p>beaTunes uses the library <a href="http://www.jthink.net/jaudiotagger/">JAudioTagger</a> to parse MP3. This library assumes that the file is CBR encoded, if neither Xing nor Vbri frame are present. This is actually not such a bad assumption as they both have been around for a long time. A well behaved encoder <em>should</em> add such a frame to make things easy for audio players.</p>
<p>If I find the time, I will try to contribute a patch to JAudioTagger in order to better deal with files like this, but cannot make any promises.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-hendrik</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/458877572018-08-19T22:18:49Z2018-08-19T22:18:49Ztunes on an album are "scrambled"<div><p>Thank you, hendrik. These files were obviously poorly encoded, or they were encoded a long time ago. I don't know which. I doubt there are many examples of this type of deficiency among files in the wild. It's nice that you were able to identify the cause of the problem.</p>
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<p>To: <a href="mailto:pattonre@yahoo.com">pattonre@yahoo.com</a> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 3:17 PM Subject: Re: tunes on an album are "scrambled" [Problems #48154]</p>
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<p>It's nice that you were able to identify the cause of the problem.</p>
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<p>Yeah. I just wished the problem wasn't there to begin with!</p></div>hendrik