tag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:/discussions/problems/48002-couple-of-bugsbeaTunes: Discussion 2018-07-10T02:41:05Ztag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-06-23T19:52:20Z2018-06-23T19:52:23ZCouple of bugs<div><p>You don't... actually have to respond to this, I don't NEED these things fixed, I was just letting you know of the problem... and didn't know how to just tell you "hey these things are weird!"</p></div>Kyletag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-06-25T14:56:56Z2018-06-25T14:56:56ZCouple of bugs<div><blockquote>
<p>You don't... actually have to respond to this, I don't NEED these things fixed, I was just letting you know of the problem... and didn't know how to just tell you "hey these things are weird!"</p>
</blockquote>
<p>This is exactly the right way to go. I'll look into this. It shouldn't happen.</p>
<p>That said: The playlist name is shown in two places. In the tree on the left and above the playlists, when it's active (along with duration etc.) In the latter location you can slow-click on the name and it becomes editable.</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-07-05T03:09:34Z2018-07-05T03:09:34ZCouple of bugs<div><p>Hey Kyle,</p>
<p>I did work some on this issue. Can you please try out the current dev-snapshot from <a href="https://www.beatunes.com/download/beaTunes-5-1-8-SNAPSHOT.dmg">https://www.beatunes.com/download/beaTunes-5-1-8-SNAPSHOT.dmg</a></p>
<p>Also, I have a question: When you select thousands of songs—why do you do that? I'm trying to understand the usage scenario.<br>
And when you do select thousands of songs, do you select <em>all</em> songs from a playlist or just <em>most</em> songs?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>-hendrik</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-07-05T16:15:07Z2018-07-05T16:15:08ZCouple of bugs<div><p>I will test this when I get home today.</p>
<p>As per your question. When I was selecting thousands of songs, it was so<br>
that I could analyze them or add them to a playlist (for library<br>
purging/sorting purposes, not so much to listen to). Specifically, I<br>
sorted my entire library by color or mood and selected all that DID NOT<br>
have a color, then analyzed those. Because my library is so large and<br>
analysis takes a good amount of time, I hadn't analyzed ALL of it the<br>
first time I started beatunes. I had only analyzed playlists/artists I<br>
was currently listening to. Also, for some reason if you have "use<br>
online resources" selected, beatunes doesn't seem to analyze a song<br>
manually (for color/mood) if it doesn't find it online. So I had a lot<br>
of new songs that beatunes couldn't find color/mood info online, but as<br>
soon as I unchecked "use online resources" it calculated the color/mood<br>
just fine (most of the time.) So, many times I had to run the analysis<br>
twice on certain songs. First using online resources for quickness, then<br>
again on the songs that did not have a color/mood not using online<br>
resources for completeness. I found this odd honestly, but I did test<br>
it. (I found a song that I HAD analyzed but it didn't have a color (but<br>
DID have a mood.) Then I analyzed it again without using online<br>
resources and it filled in the color just fine.)</p>
<p>The second application of selecting thousands of songs was because of a<br>
dumb mistake on my part. I had... renamed many of my songs behind<br>
itunes's back (with a script) and therefore itunes couldn't find them. I<br>
know... dumb. But beatunes can sort by file location, where as itunes<br>
can not. So I synchronized beatunes with itunes, and sorted by file<br>
location, which gave me every single file that itunes couldn't find<br>
(either because the file location was the old location, or because the file location was missing.) Using that, I dragged all of those to a<br>
playlist, synchronized again with itunes, then used that playlist with<br>
applescript (through itunes) to parse through the playlist and find the<br>
file to ultimately modify the location data in itunes using a simple<br>
string in string replacement technique in applescript or bash... I<br>
honestly forget. (It worked!)</p>
<p>So in general, I'd say that "selecting thousands of files" isn't a daily<br>
occurrence (hence why I stressed that this didn't have to be fixed.) It<br>
only occurs for me when I'm trying to do very large library operations.<br>
Say, fixing a mass problem with my library (missing files) or fixing<br>
duplicates (yes, I had over 3000 duplicates, mainly because of my<br>
renaming fiasco), or even trying to select ALL of my songs with a<br>
certain genre to analyze. (I analyzed my "metal" music first, so I'd<br>
just go through and select all of the metal genres. (Which totaled more<br>
than 3000 ish songs))</p>
<p>Most of the time I was selecting PART of the library, and not an entire<br>
playlist. (So 3000 out of 20000 songs) That is when I remember seeing<br>
the flickering. I don't know if the flickering happens when I select an<br>
entire playlist that's over 3000 songs long. However I will try and<br>
report back tonight when I get home.</p>
<p>Kyle Reeping, PhD<br>
<a href="mailto:reepingk@gmail.com">reepingk@gmail.com</a><br>
403-479-6203</p></div>Kyle Reepingtag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-07-06T02:55:29Z2018-07-06T02:55:30ZCouple of bugs<div><p>Ok. I tested the snapshot.</p>
<p>You fixed the playlist naming issue (thanks!). I can now rename it by slow<br>
clicking on the playlist in the sidebar rather than just just the playlist<br>
title (above the playlist at the top(ish)) of the window.</p>
<p>However, the flicker is still there, but at slightly higher "selected<br>
songs" count. The flicker doesn't happen at 3000 songs now, it happens<br>
~4500. Again, this REALLY isn't a problem. I'm long done having to select that many songs. I was just pointing it out because it seemed odd!</p>
<p>I recorded a video of the flicker. Also took a screenshot of the "about"<br>
screen. If I had thought about it, I would have recorded the about screen<br>
(for mem usage) during the song selection. EDIT: So I actually went back and wanted to simply observe what the mem usage was when I selected ~4500<br>
songs and I noticed something... weird. The memory usage in the about<br>
screen is all OVER the place. When I have ~4500 songs selected, the mem<br>
usage jumps from 500 MB to 2000 MB then back again (and all over the place<br>
in between.) I have max memory set at 4 GB because this computer has plenty<br>
(32 GB). Screen shot of about:<br>
<a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QNmmjJXPVg-HP975ru3v5NzXGJq9Y4kK">https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QNmmjJXPVg-HP975ru3v5NzXGJq9Y4kK</a></p>
<p>Video of flicker at ~4500 songs.<br>
<a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hovHo3H0JaRQfrWtbpKGE3_L2cg2vRBe">https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hovHo3H0JaRQfrWtbpKGE3_L2cg2vRBe</a></p>
<p>Hope this helps! Let me know if I can do anything else. (I love this sort<br>
of stuff!)</p>
<p>Kyle</p></div>Kyle Rtag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-07-06T15:51:37Z2018-07-06T15:51:37ZCouple of bugs<div><p>Thanks, Kyle—this is great feedback!</p>
<p>Regardless, whether you will use beaTunes this way ever again, I'm still interested in fixing these thing. I'm sure other people have noticed as well.</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-07-07T05:27:00Z2018-07-07T05:27:00ZCouple of bugs<div><p>Hey Kyle,</p>
<p>I think I have figured it out. Here's the latest snapshot:<br>
<a href="https://www.beatunes.com/download/beaTunes-5-1-8-SNAPSHOT.dmg">https://www.beatunes.com/download/beaTunes-5-1-8-SNAPSHOT.dmg</a> (same URL, but different binary).</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-hendrik</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-07-07T06:36:13Z2018-07-07T06:36:13ZCouple of bugs<div><p>Seems like you fixed it! I did notice a couple of things.</p>
<ol>
<li>The flicker is.... mostly gone. It DID flicker ONCE, but I had something<br>
like 12000 songs selected then (just for testing purposes). (Then it never<br>
flickered again.) That leads me to my next point.<br></li>
<li>The "## of ##### songs selected" is gone. (What I would describe as the<br>
Finder "Status Bar") I looked around for it, but couldn't find any settings<br>
for it.<br></li>
<li>The program FEELS noticeably smoother when scrolling etc.</li>
</ol>
<p>I did check to make sure that the flicker was still present in the old<br>
version (current stable version) and it wasn't just spotlight indexing or<br>
anything last time, and the flicker is STILL present in the old version.</p>
<p>I also recorded a video of this one, and showed memory use before/after<br>
selecting lots of songs. Seems much more stable now!<br>
Vid link. This is really funny, it seems when you "watch" a video in google<br>
drive it uploads it to the youtube interface? Anyway, the video is high<br>
quality, so if you download it (or give it a bit to upload... correctly)<br>
it'll look decent.<br>
<a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Tf3KuZMPHcRZ2yJTjPvou-lG1bOSZX8B">https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Tf3KuZMPHcRZ2yJTjPvou-lG1bOSZX8B</a></p>
<p>Let me know if you need anything else!</p>
<p>Kyle</p></div>Kyle Rtag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-07-07T14:55:41Z2018-07-07T14:55:41ZCouple of bugs<div><p>Thanks for testing!</p>
<p>The status bar should still be there...<br>
When you restart beaTunes, does it re-appear? And is it's disappearance tied to selection operations?<br>
I made some operations that show information in the statusbar asynchronous, so that they are computed a little after selection. If you selected 12000 songs, it may just still have been busy computing that information.</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-07-07T15:19:36Z2018-07-07T15:19:38ZCouple of bugs<div><p>No the status bar seems to be gone completely from the most recent<br>
snapshot. When I shut the snapshot down and restart the stable version of<br>
beatunes, the status bar is there just fine, and considering that all of<br>
these versions of beatunes seem to share the same pref. file, I don't think<br>
it's my preferences. I selected ~10 songs and waited about 5 minutes and<br>
the status bar is still gone (in the snapshot.) When I initially started<br>
the program I noticed the missing status bar and tried to change to the<br>
dark theme, but that didn't help. (Also how I learned they all shared the<br>
same pref. file.)</p>
<p>For the record, I haven't really messed with beatunes since I looked at the<br>
first snapshot you sent me, so all the settings are still exactly the same<br>
as they were then. In fact, that computer has kinda just sat there since I<br>
tested the other snapshot.</p>
<p>Hope this helps!<br>
Kyle</p></div>Kyle Rtag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-07-07T15:30:13Z2018-07-07T15:30:13ZCouple of bugs<div><p>In the latest snapshot:</p>
<p>Please turn the status bar off (via the View menu) and then on again.<br>
Does the content appear now?</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-07-07T16:09:19Z2018-07-07T16:09:20ZCouple of bugs<div><p>For a second there I felt like an idiot! I didn't know you could turn the<br>
status bar on/off.</p>
<p>It revealed some interesting behavior though.</p>
<p>The status bar option (In the view menu) was "off". BUT I still had an<br>
empty grey bar at the bottom of the beatunes window. (As you can see in the<br>
video I sent last time.) So I then turned the status bar "ON". And nothing.<br>
It didn't work. Still had an empty grey bar at the bottom of the beatunes<br>
window. Then I turned it off again and the grey bar disappeared. Then on<br>
again and the grey bar reappeared, but didn't show any text. THEN I clicked<br>
on a playlist with only a couple hundred songs (instead of the main music<br>
playlist) and voila! The status bar text appears. Then I went back to the<br>
main window and the text is still there.</p>
<p>So, some weird behavior, but it is back now, and it seems to be persistent<br>
through application restarts.</p>
<p>Kyle</p></div>Kyle Rtag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-07-07T19:54:10Z2018-07-07T19:54:10ZCouple of bugs<div><p>Hey Kyle,</p>
<p>Thanks for testing. Any chance you can send me your logs via Help->Upload Logs?</p>
<p>Thanks!!</p>
<p>-hendrik</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-07-07T20:14:11Z2018-07-07T20:14:11ZCouple of bugs<div><p>Done! I uploaded from the snapshot beatunes. (The latest one you sent.)<br>
Dunno if that matters.</p>
<p>Kyle</p></div>Kyle Rtag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-07-09T03:25:08Z2018-07-09T03:25:08ZCouple of bugs<div><p>Thanks, Kyle.</p>
<p>I managed to work some more on this. The results are in the 5.1.8 I released today.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p></div>hendriktag:help.beatunes.com,2009-07-24:Comment/455491842018-07-09T18:48:55Z2018-07-09T18:48:55ZCouple of bugs<div><p>Awesome! Glad I could help. It was a pleasure!</p>
<p>Kyle Reeping, PhD<br>
<a href="mailto:reepingk@gmail.com">reepingk@gmail.com</a><br>
403-479-6203</p></div>Kyle Reeping