Does not really sort out duplicates

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Chris

08 Aug, 2017 01:07 AM

I had a different music organizer a few years back and it really screwed up my library there are songs with the same name but actually completely different songs some not from the same artist. The problem I am having is this program does not seem to be able to differentiate those from true duplicates. Is there a setting or something I can do to make it actually fix the library?

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by hendrik on 08 Aug, 2017 09:22 AM

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    Hey Chris,

    beaTunes can do duplicate detection based on acoustic features. But you first have to run the fingerprint analysis on all your songs.

    To do so, please of to Tools -> Analyze All and in the Analysis Options dialog, please select the top task (Fingerprint). To speed this up, turn all other tasks off.

    After analysis, run the duplicate inspection again. For all duplicates, beaTunes will state why it thinks some songs are duplicates. You should then see some duplicates that are based on acoustic similarity. See also http://help.beatunes.com/discussions/questions/4994-acoustical-matc...

    Hope this helps,

    -hendrik

  2. 2 Posted by Chris on 09 Aug, 2017 11:40 PM

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    I just ran analyze all songs and although it got better at picking some of the duplicates there are songs that it is picking out the have different names different times and BPM. When I play the songs the labels and songs are correct but they are different songs that it tells me are duplicates. Is there a way to make the filtering more reliable? A lot of the suggestions are just wrong and I have to go through every file to make sure it is correct. What else can I do to make it work better?

  3. 3 Posted by Chris on 09 Aug, 2017 11:44 PM

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    Here is a screen shot of what I am talking about the songs are different and listed as different but are filtered as duplicates.

  4. 4 Posted by Chris on 09 Aug, 2017 11:51 PM

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    I am now running analyze songs but with force lookup via fingerprint, hopefully this will give me better results.

  5. Support Staff 5 Posted by hendrik on 10 Aug, 2017 07:49 AM

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    I am now running analyze songs but with force lookup via fingerprint, hopefully this will give me better results.

    This will not make a difference.

    beaTunes uses multiple ways to find duplicates:

    1. Similar names
    2. Same ids
    3. Same acoustic content

    The screenshot you sent shows a list of 3. and a selected case of 2.
    3. (same acoustic content) is much more reliable than just an embedded ID like ISRC. As a matter of fact, ISRC's are often wrong.

    Recommendation: Only pay attention to the acoustically identical tracks for now and ignore the others.

    Cheers,

    -hendrik

  6. 6 Posted by Chris on 10 Aug, 2017 11:39 AM

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    Thanks that helps some when looking for duplicates. Is there a way to know which is the correct track when the tracks are showing different songs but acoustically identical or is listening to the tracks the only way to be sure?

  7. 7 Posted by Chris on 10 Aug, 2017 11:44 AM

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    Can this program correct the track names artist and general metadata from the analyze function or is there another function to fix the wrong data reliably? I have a lot of songs that are showing the wrong artist song or many other things and need to have this fixed this is the main reason I brought this program.

  8. Support Staff 8 Posted by hendrik on 10 Aug, 2017 11:56 AM

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    Is there a way to know which is the correct track when the tracks are showing different songs but acoustically identical or is listening to the tracks the only way to be sure?

    You could try running the analysis with the import metadata task enabled and have it overwrite your metadata. If your songs are badly mislabeled, to get "correct" results, you would need to check the force lookup ... box.

    However... The data would be retrieved from the beaTunes database—a central database filled with user submissions. That means that it's very large, but some values may be incorrect. Another issue here is, that often tracks are released on multiple albums. They are acoustically identical, but there is no way of knowing which album you want.

    Another issue here is that running an analysis is a mass operation with no undo. That makes it inherently risky on a large collection (a backup is a good idea!). So in essence, your mileage may vary.

  9. 9 Posted by Chris on 10 Aug, 2017 01:34 PM

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    Ok thanks I will try it since I already have a backup of the files this may help if the information is more accurate than what I have no harm in trying.

  10. Support Staff 10 Posted by hendrik on 10 Aug, 2017 07:48 PM

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    Good luck!

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